"Agrajag" (Agrajag)
10/06/2014 at 11:43 • Filed to: familialopnik
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"Agrajag" (Agrajag)
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My Mom sent me this picture of her father seated with 3 friends of his. Does anyone know what vehicle that is? This would've been taken in the 1930's. She knows it didn't belong to our family.
A little bit of Agrajag's family history:
Growing up in Kentucky he had stints in the mines and as a farmhand. Losing sight in one eye at a young age and color blind in the other, after numerous attempts to enlist, he was eventually accepted into the Army near the end of the second world war. He met my Grandmother at a USO event and they settled in Newark, NJ. They lived on the 3rd floor of a 3 story house that her father built. My Great-Grandfather built things while my Grandfather maintained the vehicles and various equipment. He was apparently quite the skilled mechanic.
I never knew him. He died 7 years before I was born. I'm told by family, that of his grandchildren I'm the most like him. He didn't have many possessions and my Grandmother disposed of things like clothing. I'm proud to have his service hat and his !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!!
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Agrajag
10/06/2014 at 11:45 |
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Bumper looks like it might be a Model A.
EDIT: scratch that. Doesn't have a retaining plate 1/side that they appear to have had.
camaroboy68ss
> Agrajag
10/06/2014 at 11:47 |
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model a ford based on the rear bumpers. Best guess 30-31 model a.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Agrajag
10/06/2014 at 11:49 |
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Here's a '26 Hupmobile.
ACESandEIGHTS
> Agrajag
10/06/2014 at 11:52 |
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No idea on the car. Rear of a Model A.
Funny how they say people used to dress better. Saw a Depression-era film once and they showed a guy in the Dust Bowl wearing your standard khakis, leather shoes, leather flight jacket.
Oh, and a necktie.
Wouldn't do to look like a freaking hobo.
So here's these country kids probably wearing their school uniforms, or at least what they were expected to wear to school. But it looks better than what kids have worn ever since like the 80s.
Know what kids are wearing now in pictures like this? Fluorescent green Underarmor sweatshirts, oversized baseball caps, baggy shorts. In 50 years time: "Whoa, I didn't know granddad was so, uh, gangsta..."
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Agrajag
10/06/2014 at 11:58 |
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Spring locations could be a late '20s Chevrolet, but I'm not seeing that many with that bumper/wheel look. The wheel retainer is wrong for a Chevy, and may be key.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> camaroboy68ss
10/06/2014 at 12:01 |
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Model A's use different wheel retention, and the split bumper is held on with retainers that aren't in this pic. So far the closest I've found on this is some years of Chevy (wrong wheel retainer), and some Hupmobiles.
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camaroboy68ss
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
10/06/2014 at 12:08 |
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it could still be a model a that's been modified. The top looks fairly rounded like an A. I have seen a few As with that style spare
jariten1781
> ACESandEIGHTS
10/06/2014 at 12:10 |
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My great grandfather would not go to town without a tie. No ifs ands or buts. He also thought my parents were raising complete and utter slobs (probably true in comparison). He was also shocked at the shear quantity of clothes we had. When he was a kid he had one set of town clothes that he wore from about 10-16, bought super large and tacked in then mended and let out for half a decade.
He still had and occasionally wore the nice shoes he got as a high school graduation present (only one of 8 siblings to graduate high school). They'd been resoled at least 20 times over the years.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> camaroboy68ss
10/06/2014 at 12:15 |
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It *could* be a modified A, but I have my doubts that anybody'd change the rear bumper style from center mount to mounting on the end pins. What we're looking for is probably without a retainer plate stock, like this Hupmobile or some Essexs.
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ACESandEIGHTS
> jariten1781
10/06/2014 at 12:21 |
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Oh, man, you never realize the shock and awe of your grandparents' generation until you start to look back and see through their eyes. Ain't particularly fair to judge though—you were kids and largely influenced by your parents—what were you going to do about your clothes and habits... you're a kid!
I remember the last time I saw my grandpa. I had ridiculously (at the time, thought it was awesome) shaved the sides of my head for kind of a Hessian look, paired with some hipster suits so as to look half-respectable. But dangerous. So I probably looked like his worst nightmare from MTV crossed with a Death Wish III villain. And the last thing he ever said to me? "Hopefully you're either winning or losing a bet with that haircut." Hah! Jeez. Don't say stupid shit to your kids/grandkids. It'll be the last thing they remember about you.
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camaroboy68ss
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
10/06/2014 at 12:30 |
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possibly, but never underestimate a possible early custom. The early days and pre war customizing revolved around taking a cheap car like a Ford or Chevy and making them look like a more expensive car.
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jariten1781
> ACESandEIGHTS
10/06/2014 at 12:32 |
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Haha. My maternal grandfather (different guy from above) lost a ~3 year battle with some sort of cancer (Pancreatic I think, but not sure...was just 8 or so when he died). In the last couple years they'd put him on some sort of low fat/low sodium diet. His last words to me, while he was strapped to machines in the hospital, were "Don't ever let those fuckers take away the food you enjoy".
I've forgotten lots of things, but I don't think I'll ever forget those passing words.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> camaroboy68ss
10/06/2014 at 12:36 |
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I'm still leaning Hupmobile at this point, though I'm open to somebody dropping with a total genius bumper/spring perch/wheel retainer/roof curve/rumble trunk combo. I think the Hupmobile's dead on on everything but the specific wheel retainer and maybe roof version, and considering the wheel retainer's purely a poverty one except for the light... I dunno, I'd definitely agree if it had a luggage shelf and a one-piece bumper, or a wire spare-hub style spare - that's the way you dress shit up.
Sam
> ACESandEIGHTS
10/06/2014 at 12:51 |
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And here I am, wearing polos and nice jeans almost every day.
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Agrajag
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
10/06/2014 at 13:01 |
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That looks pretty close. It's too bad you can't see where the spring mounts are, and I can't make out where the exhaust is on my picture. I do think it has a longer rear deck like this Hupmobile though.
Frank Grimes
> camaroboy68ss
10/07/2014 at 15:40 |
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ford leaf springs were parallel to axle AFAIK.
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camaroboy68ss
> Frank Grimes
10/07/2014 at 15:43 |
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its not a ford then, I didn't see the shackles. Fords used a buggy spring through the 30s. They would not have parallel leafs. I just did the swap on my 33 ford a couple years ago.